@longhairgal: you are spot on but this has happened generation after generation. I’m the 3rd generation JW, 2nd gen raised-in. We each expected 1975, then 2000, not sure what people have been looking forward to, 2014, 2024, 2034? I have never known any 4th and 5th gens out there, the disillusion affects families quickly, but they keep promising and failing new victims.
Anony Mous
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WT June 2025: We Are Not Blind We Just Don't Know
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/7xumqjq3zfc?si=ivcg96t4dtgze4ft.
so this is from the brand new watchtower study edition of june 2025 which has just been posted on jw.org .under the title: modestly accept what you do not know, a let’s read paragraphs in question 4 &5: “read matthew 24:36. we do not know when the end of this system of things will come.
even jesus, while on earth, did not know the ‘day and hour.’ he later told the apostles that jehovah, who is the great timekeeper, keeps the timing of certain events ‘in his own jurisdiction,’ or authority.
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Watchtower SlangJamaican Patois: Gods son came fe mash up the world😂
by Diogenesister in🤦♀️this 25 million different languages thing is getting ridiculous.
this link is hilarious!
they've only gone and translated into jamaican patois and boy this isn't just translation, they're literally using slang....what next?
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@slimboyfat:
Jamaican Creole (which has many versions, every parish in Jamaica has different words) is a spoken, phonetic dialect, it has no official written rules, although someone created a written system for it, the same word written can mean different things based on region and sound inflection. The official language of Jamaica is standard English.
The translation of the New Testament was done by a Lutheran ministry. The flag on the Bible was placed as a sign of Jamaican independence and national pride and by the publishers, the whole project is a movement in the political sphere to make Jamaican Patois the official language of Jamaica. Very few things are written in Jamaican Patois, most of the literary work in this language thus far is by activists.
That is why this is so ‘weird’, they’re putting themselves in the political fight that is the relatively recent movement (comparable to BLM/Antifa in US) to have Jamaica shed association with its global (African, European and Caribbean) roots and replace “oppressive” standard English with a variation of its “liberated” or to some “slave” language. Note that not all Jamaicans agree that this is “proper” or the future or that you should even standardize an unwritten Creole language.
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Watchtower SlangJamaican Patois: Gods son came fe mash up the world😂
by Diogenesister in🤦♀️this 25 million different languages thing is getting ridiculous.
this link is hilarious!
they've only gone and translated into jamaican patois and boy this isn't just translation, they're literally using slang....what next?
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Never thought I would see this on JW.org:
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What the new JW light position really is 👍
by ElderBerry ini’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.
as my fellow elders are.
we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.
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That is probably the most callous comment I’ve seen since leaving the JW in response to comments about you calling out the fact that you are supporting an evil organization, children losing their innocence to child predators enabled by the JW org and families being torn apart.You truly prove you don’t care about anyone but yourself and you’re just an elder that doesn’t want to lose his position of power but still wants to profit from ‘this world’, just like most elders I have known in my past - Pharisees.- There are so many bad things in this world and everyone wants to pin the blame somewhere.
Satan is convenient if you believe that. I’m agnostic which means it may be true or it may not be.
You win some you lose some.
Trust me, your friends aren’t true friends, even your wife may not truly love you more than she does them. In ‘the world’ you can have true friends when there is no demands that keep you together.
- There are so many bad things in this world and everyone wants to pin the blame somewhere.
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I was going to write a new topic ... but now I just can't be bothered
by no-zombie ini was going to write a new topic but now i just can't be bothered ... and i'll tell you why.. on my facebook feed a few days ago, i saw an interview of a couple of onlyfans girls, who said that they were active christians that attended church weekly.
and while i was going to spend some time writing about the virtues of our faith's strict moral standards ... i now understand that i'd only be flamed as a watchtower apologist.. that being said, out of the approximately 4 million onlyfan girls out there ... it obvious, that none are jehovah's witnesses..
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I don’t agree that morals are subjective, that would mean we should accept the fact JW org breeds immorality.
I wouldn’t want my daughters to do OnlyFans, it may bring in a lot of money now, but eventually your beauty and fame runs out and that happens rather quickly. And then you have to live with the consequences, paid security or looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life if you’ve been somewhat famous isn’t cheap. If you do engage in prostitution with some of your highest paying members, who will want to have a stable relationship and kids with you later.
Most people have a rather objective sense of morality, wasting your life for short gains isn’t worth it.
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Investigation Announcement
by Newly Enlightened inlinks to website: https://www.worldorganizationwelfare.org/.
https://youtu.be/fzfklh2f458?si=gk-lonkld4dkhjk8.
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It seems like this attorney wants to do a federal child trafficking case just from reading the description. Thanks to the movie Sound of Freedom and the Trump Administration focus on protecting children from human trafficking, the government is much more sensitive to these cases today.
Unlike what the name seems to imply to the lay person, child trafficking at the federal level does not require you to kidnap and move the child. Merely offering something in exchange for sexual activity is sufficient to be considered commercial sex trafficking which carries a minimum of 15 years.
I don’t think this legal theory has been tested yet against an organization, but it is interesting as the JW org does often collaborate with elders on facilitating what may amount to child trafficking.
The attorney seems to be in Florida though.
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What the new JW light position really is 👍
by ElderBerry ini’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.
as my fellow elders are.
we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.
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@ElderBerry: the organization has NOT changed. You are peddling lies, whether or not you believe them. Had you read any posts of others on this forum, you know we and our children are still affected by JW doctrine and abuse today. Disfellowshipping and shunning is still in effect. Blood doctrine is still in effect. Shunning unbelieving family members is still in effect. Being thought that non-JW will die at Armageddon in cruel ways is still in effect. Two witness rule in regard to child abuse is still in effect. And those teachings have a real effect, especially on young people.
I have a 14 year old child, family and others that are still stuck. Nothing truly has changed. You may believe that you are getting away with something, you will at some point see that you are misleading yourself. What has changed is some of the rhetoric, but it has only become more insidious. You can’t call it a disfellowshipping because legal work performed by yours truly and many of our friends, we have over the past 15 years exposed the organization, started lawsuits in both the US and Europe, my mother testified in at least one, so now you call it something else, but the results remain the same.
You keep ignoring the question though because you know you are in the wrong and deceitful to yourself and your congregation. You are a Pharisee, laying heavy burdens on those that serve you while not lifting even a finger.
James 4:17 tells us, “If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them.”
If you are so sure that what you do is acceptable, then pronounce it to your so-called friends. You are an elder, go to the media and on behalf of your organization apologize for the suicides. Apologize for the child molesters and turn over the documents in your congregation that you have been obligated to keep.
And you know you can’t do that because your so-called friends will shun you. Your family will even shun you. If you are so sure, prove me wrong.
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What the new JW light position really is 👍
by ElderBerry ini’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.
as my fellow elders are.
we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.
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@ElderBerry: would you do this:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/209577/am-sheep-wolves-clothing
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/215228/am-out-finally-done-witnesses
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/221475/reply-from-branch-on-our-e-mail-action-last-summer
Would you apologize on behalf of your fellow elders for this: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/211911/way-they-probe-you-unbelievable
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/221448/how-parents-can-protect-their-children-from-misuse-blood-55-e-9-10
And I can go on, just click through my history, the abuse in the name of and on behalf of the organization continues until today. If you don’t believe it, as my post above, why stay?
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What the new JW light position really is 👍
by ElderBerry ini’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.
as my fellow elders are.
we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.
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@ElderBerry: I twice didn’t critique you on the belief system but the actions of the organization, yet you continue to support them or ignore the truth.
Why, if what you say is true, do you not take your congregation “private” and denounce the actions of the JW “Heavy” organization and its members. A schism is long overdue.
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What the new JW light position really is 👍
by ElderBerry ini’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.
as my fellow elders are.
we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.
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@elderberry: at this point you know what is right and wrong in the organization. What you believe and whether it is correct is irrelevant, you know the flaws in the organization yet you continue to support them in your position.
The GB through certain teachings are responsible for systematic child abuse, mental abuse and self-enrichment. Doesn’t that make you responsible as elder that teaches and (at least pretends to) supports this, regardless of personal beliefs, in the eyes of God, morality and the law? Like a soldier that knows his orders are against the rules of war and still executes them, said soldier is held responsible.
JW Lite is the worst kind of JW because you know it is wrong yet you are too cowardly to stand up for yourself and your fellow people, especially the children.
If you and your friends truly believe the GB is fallible and has strayed, declare your congregation independent from the organization and claw back your rights, dignity and property.